Comments on: Scientific “Consensus” http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=2017 Conservative commentary served up in bite-sized bits Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:59:17 +0000 hourly 1 By: John http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=2017&cpage=1#comment-967 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:09:23 +0000 http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=2017#comment-967 Your keying on the word “consensus” strikes a chord for me. The “global warming promoters” want to use this word to tell us to quit thinking, quit digging, it’s all been decided and we don’t need to worry our little heads about whether or not it is true. Just accept it!

When Dr. Cullen’s blog appeared, I did some internet surfing on the term “global warming”. There are hundreds of sites out there that all list several “facts” about global warming, and nearly all of them list, near the top, that there is a “consensus” among scientists that global warming is real. Like this should be a “fact” that would sway me into thinking that global warming is real.

The only thing that will convince me is real, measurable evidence. Not a single event in one location, such as a warm Northeast winter or melting in one location, disregarding ice formation in another or cold weather (Denver!) in other locations. You can’t take one day or one season and draw conclusions.

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By: Kim Rowe http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=2017&cpage=1#comment-962 Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:58:26 +0000 http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=2017#comment-962 There is nothing to solve. The correct term should be Solar System Warning. Here are several articles that Ms. Cullen & other global warming alarmists should read:
Mars is Warming: NASA

http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=17977

Mars Emerging from Ice Age: NASA

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_ice-age_031208.html

Pluto Sees Global Warming: MIT

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/pluto.html

Global Warming on Jupiter: Hubble Telescope

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060504_red_jr.html

Neptune’s Moon Getting Warmer: Hubble Telescope

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/120259.stm

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By: Doug Payton http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=2017&cpage=1#comment-926 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:24:32 +0000 http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=2017#comment-926 Consensus certainly is relevant if it forces weather folks, perceived to be experts, to tow the party line in front of the public and the politicians. From Gore on down, consensus is trumpeted as a way to stifle the very debate and study you talk about. That’s not the way to solve anything, if in fact we can “solve” it.

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By: Shepherd http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=2017&cpage=1#comment-925 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:15:10 +0000 http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=2017#comment-925 Consensus has absolutely no relevance to the debate itself, it is an issue of politics rising from the demands of government officials and businesses. Internal scientific consensus also has no importance as this is generally a subject of associates within a given field of expertise.

The press, pundits, and politicians using consensus to weigh the issues must certainly find themselves quite confused. Perhaps this confusion and bottom line conflicts of interest for all three parties explains why the actual evidence goes largely unaddressed. Pretty charts and cherry picked statistics might be easy to digest but they don’t satisfy the desire many have to understand what’s going on with the climate.

Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the science and criticize actual findings. This way you can avoid presenting the issue as a blind taste test of this brand or that.

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