Oh, barf! Hey. I’m a real live liberal right here. Why don’t you ask me a question rather than try to speak for me and what I WOULD tell you, m’kay?

At least the impression you leave is that what I said was wrong. I said liberals would say that God hasn’t been removed from schools, and your outburst suggests something is wrong with my characterization. Perhaps you think He has, which would actually buttress my point that He’d wind up in a holding cell should he show up.

Well, God in school only became a problem when we lost our historical moral moorings and shared values. This was generally a nation of either Christians or people who respected it to one degree or another and understood its historical contribution to our society. Somehow very few people considered it a imposition until the 60s brought us a “new morality” who’s consequences we’ve been struggling with ever since.

If you read any of the links, you’ll note that the economy has indeed been cranking along overall. The economic downturn of 2001 corresponded with an event called “9/11” that you may have heard of. Even with that, the world went into an economic downturn, and the US led the way out of it.

Um, how did we get to talking about Iraq?

My request was for more accounts of the Gideon incident. You’d think with all the news sources out there more folks would cover this. But I guess since it’s a bunch of Christians, they don’t warrant coverage. You commented on another post about the mismatched coverage of the March for Life. Consider this another example of media bias.

February 9th, 2007 at 9:10 am
If you could send a link to any of these other accounts, I would appreciate it. I’ve only seen one news story on it so far.

Thanks.”

Would you like other accounts of police harrassment? It happens a lot. We’re weaker divided. Whether passing out Bibles or protesting the war, we have to stick together to demand responsible government.

Ok. You’re gonna have to explain this one to me in a little bit more detail because I’m not following your point. If you aren’t talking about religious instruction, then what are you talking about?

“How we lasted for so long with an acknowledgment in public school without all the problems that it allegedly would cause is truly amazing. ”

Well, it did finally cause problems, though, didn’t it? Why would you want to force it on unwilling subjects through the public schools rather than let each American choose her own path?

““Affording” tax cuts? Ever since the Bush tax cuts, federal revenues have been increasing and the economy has been cranking ever since.”

Patently false. You seem like an honest guy, but you just can’t say things that you don’t know are true, and I know you don’t know this is true because I know it’s false. Bush cut taxes in 2001, 2003, and 2004. Revenues declined in 2001, 2002, and 2003. Furthermore, the 2003 tax cuts were labelled as a ‘jobs’ package. It was a total bust according to it’s two year predictions. It was a failure.

Furthermore, I find it a grotesque display of elite privilege for investors to make record profits they didn’t earn while this country is at war and my rural home town folk are over there fighting and dying. This economy means nothing to them — living another day is a miracle. You guys are rolling in the cash while they have to write home asking parents and hometown donations to buy the armor they need — meanwhile, yup, Bush’s 2007 budget cuts funding for the VA right as Iraq veterans are coming home needing services, but can’t get them. Support the troops my ass. Makes me want to puke.

How we lasted for so long with an acknowledgment in public school without all the problems that it allegedly would cause is truly amazing.

“Affording” tax cuts? Ever since the Bush tax cuts, federal revenues have been increasing and the economy has been cranking ever since. We’ve reduced the tax burden on the middle class (trust me, I know first hand), given people back their own money, and fueled economic growth so the poor get more job opportunities. (Well, until the Democrats put them out of work with a minimum wage hike.) I think God would be OK with that.

Oh, barf! Hey. I’m a real live liberal right here. Why don’t you ask me a question rather than try to speak for me and what I WOULD tell you, m’kay? Thanks.

Frankly, I have no problem teaching the Bible as literature or social science — but if it were to be taught as truth, then I’d insist my interpretation of that truth be taught. If we’re cool with that, I’ll start writing up the curriculum. If you don’t want my interpretation of the Bible, then I’m afraid I have to insist that no blasphemy be taught at school. We’ll just have to let religion be taught at churches.

If God showed up at school, he’d probably ask, “How can you afford tax cuts if you can’t afford textbooks?” I’d have no answer.

It can happen to anyone. If you value the 4th Amendment, you shouldn’t care whether they were handing out Bibles or being a bratty college kid. Rights are rights for all of us.

Thanks.

This is a very important distinction. Whereas I personally disagree with the school authorities in refusing to allow a peaceable activity to continue, it seems quite unfortunate that our Gideon friends failed to use wisdom in their activities after the distribution ceased.

In addition, please notice that the Alliance Defense Fund is the legal representative. If the arrest was related to Gideon activities, it would be The Gideons International who would be providing legal defense. And finally, if they really were defending a Gideon activity, they would NOT be issuing public statements concerning the defense.

So the only conclusion to draw is that it appears that two men who had been performing an activity in relationship to the Gideon program were arrested, as was was stated, “AFTER” a Gideon activity, but what they were arrested for was not at all Gideon related.

Very sad indeed. Please pray for these men, and for a minimizing of the damage their action may do to the cause to which they were obviously committed.