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March 31st, 2003

What a week to have …

What a week to have been away from the blog! So much went on:

  • The top sellers of arms to Iraq have been Russia, France and China. Imagine that. The US, by the way, ranks way down in the list (1% of Iraq’s purchases vs. Russia’s 57%, France’s 13% and China’s 12%). Hopefully this will quiet those who seem to think America was the prime, if not only, seller of weapons to Hussein. We didn’t hold a candle to the Axis of Weasels.
  • Another human shield admits how wrong he was. He posted a very detailed desciption of his time in Iraq. Best quote: “I had been demonstrating against the war thinking I had been doing it for the very people I was here with now and yet I had not ever bothered to ask them what they wanted.”
  • The anti-war crowd has been saying for months that Saddam didn’t pose a threat to anyone, and now they’re saying (as exemplified by this weekend’s Peter Arnett Gestapo Iraq TV interview) that Iraq is a more formidable force than they’d ever imagined. Can’t have it both ways.
  • Looks like Iraq has at least some Al-Qaeda backing. Does this surprise anyone? (Yes, yes, I mean “except the anti-war crowd”.)

…and a bunch more, but you get the idea. It’s been quite a ride.

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March 24th, 2003

I’m learning the Jav…

I’m learning the Java computer language this week, so entries will be minimal.

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March 24th, 2003

A (former) human shi…

A (former) human shield for the country of Iraq got a serious upside-the-head wake-up call while he was in Baghdad. It’s definitely worth the free registration to read the London Telegraph. Best portion:

It hit me on visceral and emotional levels: this was a real portrayal of Iraq life. After the first conversation, I completely rethought my view of the Iraqi situation. My understanding changed on intellectual, emotional, psychological levels. I remembered the experience of seeing Saddam’s egomaniacal portraits everywhere for the past two weeks and tried to place myself in the shoes of someone who had been subjected to seeing them every day for the last 20 or so years.

Last Thursday night I went to photograph the anti-war rally in Parliament Square. Thousands of people were shouting “No war” but without thinking about the implications for Iraqis. Some of them were drinking, dancing to Samba music and sparring with the police. It was as if the protesters were talking about a different country where the ruling government is perfectly acceptable. It really upset me.

Reality. What a concept.

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March 24th, 2003

My essays pages is n…

My essays pages is now listed at The Liberal Dose web site. He’s got lots of great links to other conservative sites, and has a section where he opines on various subjects.

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March 20th, 2003

Less than 24 hours a…

Less than 24 hours after weapons inspectors left Iraq, Scud missles have been fired from Iraq into Kuwait in response to our cruise missle strike.

Wait a minute…weren’t Scuds supposed to be banned? Am I supposed to believe that, mere hours after folks looking for them left, banned weapons are already being used? Gosh! How could that have happened?

Folks, weapons inspections, of the UN variety, were patently not working. They required cooperation by Hussein–cooperation that never materialized except when it served his purpose. They would never have worked so long as he was in power.

However, weapons inspections of the Coalition variety do appear to be making progress.

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March 20th, 2003

And so it begins.

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</rdf:RDF> --> </div> <!-- clearfix --> </div> <!-- center-widget --> <!-- End of the loop --> <!-- Print the title of the post --> <div class="center-widget-title">March 19th, 2003</div> <div class="center-widget"> <div class="clearfix"> <h2> <a class="post-title" href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=155" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to With all the compari…"> With all the compari… </a> </h2> <!-- Print the time the article was posted --> <div class="post-author">By Doug Payton</div> <!-- The article content --> <div class="post-content"> <p>With all the comparisons I’ve seen anti-war protestors make between Bush and Hitler, how about we ask someone who was actually there, who had almost 90 members of his family killed in the Holocaust, and who’s spent his life tracking down Nazis to bring them to justice?</p> <p>How ’bout we ask <a href="http://www.wiesenthal.com/mailings_swc/swc_mar17.html"><b>Simon Wiesenthal</b></a>? <div></div> <div></div> <p 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2003</div> <div class="center-widget"> <div class="clearfix"> <h2> <a class="post-title" href="http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=156" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to John Fund has coales…"> John Fund has coales… </a> </h2> <!-- Print the time the article was posted --> <div class="post-author">By Doug Payton</div> <!-- The article content --> <div class="post-content"> <p>John Fund has coalesced a lot of the history of Hollywood anti-war protesting over the past 20 years (and the convenient lack of it during the Clinton administration) into a single article with a great title, <a href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110003188"><b>“Stars and Gripes”</b></a>. Best paragraph:<br /> <blockquote>I also remember when leftists and Hollywood stars of all stripes opposed American intervention in Grenada and supported the Sandinista regime in Nicaragua. The people of both countries have shown their gratitude for our help and today live in freedom. I remember, too, how many countries were hesitant to join the allied coalition in the 1991 Gulf War, fearing that it would turn out horribly. History has proved them wrong. </p></blockquote> <p>Again, it’s history that points out the fallacies. <div></div> <div></div> <p class="akpc_pop">Popularity: 3% <span class="akpc_help">[<a href="http://alexking.org/projects/wordpress/popularity-contest" title="What does this mean?">?</a>]</span></p><div class="sociable"><span class="sociable_tagline"><strong>Share the Linkage:</strong><span>These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.</span></span><ul> <li><a href="http://digg.com/submit?phase=2&url=http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=156&title=John+Fund+has+coales..." title="digg"><img src="http://www.thepaytons.org/consideretteswp/wp-content/plugins/sociable/images/digg.png" alt="digg" /></a></li> <li><a href="http://del.icio.us/post?url=http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=156&title=John+Fund+has+coales..." title="del.icio.us"><img 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do Bush and Blair. But he fears the American hawks will ignite Muslim fundamentalism worldwide. The fear of domestic conflagration and terrorism are also ever-present: there are 6 million French Muslims to take into account.<br />– <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,913895,00.html"><b>Marc Roche</b></a> in The Guardian</p></blockquote> <p>Fear is continuing to grip the left. “Oh, that ol’ Hussein guy sure is despicable, but if we stand up for what’s right, or even try to enforce our own resolutions, people might get mad and not like us, and maybe even hurt us.” The terrorists have won the mind of Mr. Roche. 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Andrew Sulliv…"> Ouch! Andrew Sulliv… </a> </h2> <!-- Print the time the article was posted --> <div class="post-author">By Doug Payton</div> <!-- The article content --> <div class="post-content"> <p>Ouch! <a href="http://andrewsullivan.com/index.php?dish_inc=archives/2003_03_09_dish_archive.html#90629225"><b>Andrew Sullivan</b></a> pointed out an opinion piece in the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13019-2003Mar11.html"><b>Washington Post</b></a> that is positively brutal in its honesty about the alternative to war. </p> <p>If you think war kills, it doesn’t hold a candle to years and years of containment. 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Pretty soon you couldn’t take it seriously, because so many silly things had been tagged to it.</p> <p>But then consider this: What value of X would actually make that statement the most true? In order to answer that question, you have to figure out what the terrorists are trying to do? Now, trying to get into their collective heads and determine their specific motives may be an exercise for a psychologist, not me, but I can think of a value for X that is at least generally true of terrorists in general.</p> <p>X = “respond, because we’re afraid”</p> <p>Basically, if terrorists have instilled terror into us, to the point that either we do what they want us to do or we don’t do what they don’t want us to do, they’ve won the battle, if not the war. The point of terrorism is to instill so much fear that we relent to their demands, either actively or passively.</p> <p>And so, consider the following quotes from the left side of the aisle:<br /> <blockquote>Do Americans believe that taking out Saddam would really make life here safer? Will we really be able to stop living in fear? Or do enough Americans believe, as I do, that terrorists will retaliate with an attack on us–perhaps in Chicago, Dallas or Los Angeles–the minute a bomb destroys the first mosque? <br />– <a href="http://www.ushli.com/cj101102.asp"><b>Commentary</b></a> by Juan Andrade of The United States Hispanic Leadership Institute, 10/11/2002</p></blockquote> <p> <blockquote>Iraq is going to retaliate as soon as they are attacked. And terrorists are going to hit the U.S. more and more. I believe that military targets in the U.S. are in jeopardy, so the Hampton Roads area and DC are likely targets.</p> <p>I think Hussein is a scary man, but there are other ways to take him out than war. <br />– <a href="http://cordle.info/blog/2003_02_01_archive.php#90386360"><b>Cordle</b></a>, a blogger, 2/27/2003</p></blockquote> <p> <blockquote>Leave Terrorists alone, they might strike back<br />– chalk writing on sidewalk at a student war protest at Stanford University, 3/5/2003, as reported by <a href="http://www.i-lin.com/chris/protest/"><b>Chrislin’s</b></a> blog (who, by way of disclaimer, doesn’t agree with the sentiments expressed)</p></blockquote> <p>What do all these sentiments have in common? Fear. Don’t go to war, because the terrorists or the madmen might hurt us back. Just let Saddam continue to torture his own people. Don’t respond to al Qaeda attacks. Hussein will change…he just needs more time (12 years surely isn’t enough), and if we push too hard he might push back. If we don’t bother Osama, maybe he’ll leave us alone.</p> <p>Listen to the protesters, the bloggers, the pundits. When they get past their caricatures of Bush as Hitler and their mantras, listen to them. Why do they insist on doing the same thing that has been done for years without success? Why do they suggest that war never solved anything, when it plainly has (ask a thankful Kuwaiti or a Frenchman born after 1945 whose native language isn’t German)? Why do they safely protest against Bush, when Hussein has committed (actual) atrocities against his own people and yet they say nothing?</p> <p>War is an awful option. “War is hell”, no doubt about it. But the only reason Saddam is feeding crumbs to weapons inspectors is because of the threat of war. The only reason he left Kuwait in his “blood for oil” war was because of the force of war. And the only way he’ll “comply” with UN resolutions is if he is physically forced to. The only reason some small semblance of freedom returned to Afghanistan is because war forced out the Taliban, who never had any intention of stopping bin Laden from his murderous ways. </p> <p>The United States has responded to terrorists with full knowledge of the possible consequences, but was not afraid to act in its own interest. Ask that aforementioned Kuwaiti or Frenchman, or perhaps a woman in Afghanistan who can now go to school, what it means when we’re not afraid of terrorists or madmen.</p> <p>If you’re afraid of terrorists, they’ve beaten you. If this nation becomes terrorized because we don’t have the will to act, the bin Ladens and Husseins of the world have us right where they want us.</p> <p>If we don’t respond, because we’re afraid, <i>then</i> the terrorists have won. <div></div> <div></div> <p class="akpc_pop">Popularity: 3% <span class="akpc_help">[<a href="http://alexking.org/projects/wordpress/popularity-contest" title="What does this mean?">?</a>]</span></p><div class="sociable"><span class="sociable_tagline"><strong>Share the Linkage:</strong><span>These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.</span></span><ul> <li><a href="http://digg.com/submit?phase=2&url=http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=161&title=The+phrase+popped+up..." title="digg"><img src="http://www.thepaytons.org/consideretteswp/wp-content/plugins/sociable/images/digg.png" alt="digg" /></a></li> <li><a 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to press for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made? Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction.” </p> <p>“If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow.” “Some day, some way, I guarantee you, he’ll use the arsenal.” </p></blockquote> <p>If you answered “George W. Bush” or “Colin Powell”, you’re wrong. </p> <p>OK, now who said this?<br /> <blockquote>He [Hussein] has maximum incentive not to use this stuff. If we go, he has maximum incentive to use it because he knows he’s going to lose. </p></blockquote> <p>The answer to both questions is Bill Clinton (from 1998 and from 2002, respectively). The web site <a href="http://www.efreedomnews.com/index.htm">efreedomnews.com</a> has <a href="http://www.efreedomnews.com/News%20Archive/Iraq/SpecialReportWaronIraq/W11Democrats4War.htm"><b>these and other</b></a> Clinton, Daschle and John Kerry quotes from then and now. Required reading, especially for Democrats who backed their guys 110% then and 110% now. The schizophrenia is amazing, not to mention convenient.</p> <p>Once again, what a difference an administration makes. <div></div> <div></div> <p class="akpc_pop">Popularity: 3% <span class="akpc_help">[<a href="http://alexking.org/projects/wordpress/popularity-contest" title="What does this mean?">?</a>]</span></p><div class="sociable"><span class="sociable_tagline"><strong>Share the Linkage:</strong><span>These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages.</span></span><ul> <li><a href="http://digg.com/submit?phase=2&url=http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=162&title=Who+said+this%3FWhat+i..." title="digg"><img src="http://www.thepaytons.org/consideretteswp/wp-content/plugins/sociable/images/digg.png" alt="digg" /></a></li> <li><a href="http://del.icio.us/post?url=http://www.thepaytons.org/essays/considerettes/?p=162&title=Who+said+this%3FWhat+i..." title="del.icio.us"><img 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I said, <br /> <blockquote>Did you hear a story about Iraqi-Americans petitioning the Bush administration to <a href="http://www.detnews.com/2003/metro/0302/24/a01-92606.htm"><b>topple Saddam Hussein</b></a>? </p> <p>Yeah, neither did I. Wonder why.</p></blockquote> <p>The link points to a item in the Detroit News that reported on an event organized by the Iraqi Forum for Democracy in which Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz was the guest speaker. The members of this forum were urging him to topple Saddam Hussein, in response to all the anti-war protests.</p> <p>Tony said, in response to me, “Yeah, I did, FoxNews, MSNBC, and CSPAN were live with Wolfowitz in the town hall meeting promoting the idea.” So apparently this meeting, or some other meeting with a similar tone, did get covered by some of the cable networks. But let’s look at the coverage for a second. <ul> <li>Fox’s coverage doesn’t surprise me. “Fair and balanced” means showing both sides of the issue and they cover both the anti-war and pro-liberation crowds in a more balanced fashion than anybody. <li>Good to see MSNBC covering all angles, although their ratings are pretty much in the basement. <li>CSPAN covers <i>everything</i> if it’s political and especially if it involves a high-level cabinet position.</ul> <p>The only real surprise for me here is the MSNBC coverage. Good to see, but virtually inconsequential. However, conspicuous by their absence were CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC. A search for any mention of “Iraqi Forum for Democracy” and “Wolfowitz” on <a href="http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=%22Iraqi+Forum+for+Democracy%22+wolfowitz&btnG=Search+News"><b>Google News</b></a> did not reveal coverage by any of those networks, at least on their web sites. There is still the possibility that Peter Jennings gave it a few seconds of air time, but the point was, and still is, that the networks give far, far more press to anti-war views than those who believe a war is necessary. (The <a href="http://www.mrc.org/"><b>Media Research Center</b></a> has been chronicling many instances of this bias lately, especially with regards to ABC News.) Look what it took to get MSNBC to cover this unique pro-liberation angle; a personal visit by a top cabinet member. Would they have covered this event if, instead of inviting Wolfowitz, the Iraqi Forum for Democracy had just staged an anti-Saddam protest? I think a safe bet would be “No”. And even with Wolfowitz’s presence, the other networks didn’t find it worthy of mention.</p> <p>In fact, with all the attacks on Fox News that they’re just shills for the Republicans, it’s interesting to note that almost all of the other networks that consider themselves balanced didn’t bother covering this. Fox covers all angles, and they’re called “biased”, while the other networks ignore or minimize conservatives and they call themselves “fair”.</p> <p>So yes, my personal experience wasn’t enough when determining whether or not the networks were biased in coverage of this issue. But given more information, the picture doesn’t look better. 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